Presidential removal should be hard, but not almost impossible. Here’s an excerpt from “An eclectic, bipartisan group suddenly calls for removing Trump using the 25th Amendment” by Aaron Blake at CNN Politics:
The 25th Amendment talk is back.
Lawmakers have repeatedly floated the method for removing a president, as laid out in the Constitution, in recent years. And Donald Trump’s Cabinet apparently discussed the option more earnestly than many initially realized after the January 6, 2021, Capitol attack.
To successfully remove Trump, a majority of his Cabinet and his vice president would have to be supportive. And there are no indications any Cabinet officials are considering it right now, or that Vice President JD Vance would be on board. But Trump’s comment Tuesday morning that a “whole civilization will die tonight” unless Iran makes a deal spurred increasing calls — among a somewhat odd amalgamation of voices — to invoke the amendment.
Less than two hours before his 8 p.m. deadline for Iran, Trump announced he’d agreed to a two-week ceasefire, conditional on Tehran opening the Strait of Hormuz.
Democratic lawmakers and right-wing voices had spent the previous 24 hours expressing concerns about just how far the president was willing to take things in the Iran war. His threats to strike power plants and other civilian infrastructure have been decried as war crimes, and some even said they feared the administration’s threats alluded to the potential use of nuclear weapons (which the White House has denied considering).
It’s mostly Democrats who have called to invoke the amendment — dozens of them, in fact. That includes potential presidential hopefuls like Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker. (Of course, they have little to no power at the moment to initiate removal proceedings.)
But notably, some conservatives and other recent Trump allies have taken up the call, as well.
“How do we 25th Amendment his ass?” conspiracy theorist Alex Jones asked his guest on Monday’s show.
By Tuesday morning, right-leaning advocates for the step spanned from more-extreme influencers to former Trump White House official Anthony Scaramucci to more-moderate Never Trumpers.
“25TH AMENDMENT!!!” former congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Georgia Republican, posted on X about an hour after Trump’s post about Iran’s civilization dying. She called it “evil and madness.”
Some congressional Democrats re-posted Greene’s words.
“The 25th amendment needs to be invoked,” right-wing podcaster Candace Owens added later in the morning.
Scaramucci, who served briefly as Trump’s communications director during his first term, advocated for Trump’s removal and claimed Trump was threatening to use nukes.
“Wake up: he is calling for A NUCLEAR STRIKE,” Scaramucci said. “Seek his removal immediately.”
When others suggested online that Vance had implied Tuesday morning that Trump could order a nuclear strike, the White House denied he was saying anything of the sort. The vice president had talked about using “tools in our toolkit that we so far haven’t decided to use.”
Some Never Trump conservatives like New York Times columnist David French were also calling for the 25th Amendment.
“This is obvious 25th Amendment territory, but people are so desensitized that they can’t see it,” French said.
Others didn’t go quite so far, but have begun raising new levels of concern about Trump’s intentions.
One of them is former Trump ally Tucker Carlson, who on his show Monday criticized Trump like never before. The former Fox News host said Trump was threatening to commit “a war crime, a moral crime” in Iran by attacking infrastructure in ways that would lead to mass death, and he even seemed to suggest Trump might be the antichrist.
Also on Tuesday, GOP Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, who has been a loyal Trump ally in Congress, told the Wall Street Journal that Trump “loses me if he attacks civilian targets” like infrastructure. Johnson signaled he saw such attacks as indeed illegal.”
That’s most of the article. To find out how the 25th Amendment works – here’s just one of numerous explanations. Impeachment is also a big stretch, when one party has been corrupted beyond any circumstances the founders could envision.
The only shortcut we have seen in American history is when a high-level delegation of members of congress, lead by Senator Barry Goldwater convinced President Nixon to resign, and he did. They told him that the Senate votes were in place to convict him. Nixon wanted to avoid imprisonment and a plan was developed. President Gerald Ford’s pardon sealed the deal and America survived.
But these are very different times, and Nixon, despite his shortcomings, had a sense of patriotism before self which made the deal possible. He also had a more adult maturity, and an intellect that allowed him to see that his presidency was toast.
President Trump also fears imprisonment. Perhaps a plan that offers mental health care instead, could facilitate his exit.
It couldn’t hurt, if a high-level delegation of political and military leaders presented a similar message and deal to President Trump. It’s time for the “adults in the room” of both parties to do something. We simply can’t have someone with the emotional maturity of an angry nine-year old commanding the world’s most powerful military resources, threatening to totally destroy another country, and immiserate its 92 million human beings.
Democrats will rightly point out that Vice President Vance is no bargain, which is quite true. But he can play a “caretaker role,” until the next presidential election. True also, that the votes to convict Trump, following impeachment are not yet in place. The midterm elections could change that, to some extent. There are no perfect solutions to a problem like this. If anybody’s got a better idea, let’s hear it.



Democrats continue down the path of matching Trump’s histrionics.
Political culture continues down the path of mutual degradation.
Don’t bet on it. Trump’s and the war’s poll numbers with Republicans remain sky-high. That’s always been the primary obstacle to impeachment or the 25th amendment.